Painting like Guru.....Updated 11/17/07

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Painting like Guru.....Updated 11/17/07

Post by sounguru » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:19 am

Okay guys here is a Thread on painting a mech like the Guru. This is being done as from beginning to end kind of project it will not be short but you will get to see how I paint a mini from the beginning after assembly to the end.
Episode #1 starts the video part of the demo so be prepared to have some time for it.

Week 1 : Tools of the trade. This covers alot of the common tools used in miniature painting
http://forum.exodus-road.com/viewtopic.php?t=817

Week 2 : Modding Supplies. this will cover alot of the stuff used when working on reposing or changing the loadout on a mini
http://forum.exodus-road.com/viewtopic.php?t=819

Week 3: Paints. Kind of self explaining but gives a general run down of wht works and why
http://forum.exodus-road.com/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Week 4: Brushes. one of the most asked about topics I get covers selection and care
http://forum.exodus-road.com/viewtopic.php?t=887

Week 5: Work Space. Shows how I like to be setup a good setup makes it easier to work.
http://forum.exodus-road.com/viewtopic.php?p=3689#3689

Okay from here on out I have switch to a video format. All videos should be right aroung 30 min esch. The best way to see the video is to download it. Also in the botom right there is a down arrow click on it and then select original size. Sorry that the videos are such a small size but until I can find a host that can take 6 gig files this will have to do.

Episode #1 : Priming and Washing a mini. This will go over the basics of taking a mini from the priming stage to applying a wash. Also covers a wet pallete 30min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1470028300

Episode #2 : Chalking Part #1: This is where we begin the serious work and start to transform the mini using chalk as our base coat. 30 min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0358160110

Episode #3 : Chalking Part #2: Finishing the chalking and getting the mini ready to detail. 15 min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0786171641
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Post by AVA MANGO TWO » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:18 am

Well its a cool idea and it should also raise and answer quite a few modeling questions for the newer members who want to leaern a few tricks of the trade about kitbashing and reposeing miniatures.... would you like me to sticky this thread for you. :?: zac
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Post by thecircus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:09 am

Yah know I do have a question....How do you use the green or brown stuff? Is it better than the stuff by Squadron?



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Post by AVA MANGO TWO » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:37 am

Yah know I do have a question....How do you use the green or brown stuff? Is it better than the stuff by Squadron?
Ive never used Squadron putty before but ive used both Green and Brown stuff, the difference between the two is the texture and gradeient of putty when the two compounds are mixed together to create a single putty.

Both are air dried two part putties and take between 6-8 hours to cure and set rock hard in approx 14-18 hours when the two equal parts are blended together, they are both reasonably fine quality to sculpt indepth detail in or on, the Brown stuff has metal particals added into the putty and is a finer gradient the the standard Green stuff.

Personally i use Milliput as its cheaper and basically the same product and actually dries faster and you can achive the same desired effects with Milliput from filling gaps and drilling into it to modeling with it to create whatever you want to... :wink: zac
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Post by thecircus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:46 am

So when you mix the two components, you have to wait 6-8 hours to use the stuff? Plus, how do you apply it? Can one of the moderators make this a sticky?


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Post by jtbrown » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:51 am

Interesting suggestion for the piano wire... another suggestion might be guitar strings. Just a few bucks can get you a set of 6 different guages to work with and would probably last for a while too.
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Post by AVA MANGO TWO » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:01 pm

So when you mix the two components, you have to wait 6-8 hours to use the stuff? Plus, how do you apply it?
You use the putty right away as soon as you have mixed it together and applied it to the miniature its very tacky and will stick to the surface, then you start to modeling what ever you want to once thats done set the mini aside to let the putty set hard then you can go back n file it sand it do what ever you need to do to it to complete you work
Can one of the moderators make this a sticky?
Yes i can.... :wink: zac
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Post by Steven Sarima » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:08 pm

Thanks this will come in handy only thing instead of piano wire for antenna i use tooth brush bristles eaiser to work with and dont poke things like fingers

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Post by Deluge » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:09 pm

thecircus wrote:So when you mix the two components, you have to wait 6-8 hours to use the stuff? Plus, how do you apply it? Can one of the moderators make this a sticky?


Jeff
I mix my putty, apply it, and let it sit for 10-15 minutes to reduce the tack. I then mold it to shape. Let it sit overnight or the better part of a day with a heat lamp or "curing can". Once cured... file, sand, and score away.

I use brown stuff alot because its forms better edges as its stiffer. The green stuff is usually more flexible. You can also mix green with brown in different quantities to get a compromise of properties.

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Post by thecircus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:12 pm

Thanks, ffolkes!!


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Post by sounguru » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:29 pm

Glad to see you guys like it ....

I have never used guitar strings but I see how they can be used. As a matter of fact I'm headed to a new hobby shop today and they sell guitar strings in a tube so I was gonna pick some up for antenna wires.

I have also used toothbrush bristles but I find because they flex so much the paint has a tendancy to flake off..

As far as putty goes there are all types .. You can pick up stuff real cheap at the local hardware store that is great for filling in bases and stuff like that. It is usually grainer so not good for actual on the mini use. Green stuff and Brown stuff are a real fine grain putty and have a longer working life.

The supplies list are just the items I use alot, every artist will have different items that they like to use....

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Post by Deluge » Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:54 pm

You have to be careful of the thinner guitar strings. They are so thin you can run them in your finger like a needle.

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Post by thecircus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:57 pm

I have used some of the thinner floral wires for minis....
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Post by sounguru » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:22 am

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Post by thecircus » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:41 am

Thanks for the Zenith priming tip, William!!! I think I will be using it a lot!!


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Post by Blackhawk01 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:39 pm

I have found that your local street gutter can be a good source for sand/pebbles. And the price is right.
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Post by sounguru » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:21 pm

Blackhawk01 wrote:I have found that your local street gutter can be a good source for sand/pebbles. And the price is right.
So true it is amazing how much stuff you can find when you just look down at your feet....
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Post by sounguru » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:35 pm

Added a sealer section to the paints.
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Post by sounguru » Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:54 am

Added week 4 .....

Did someone un sticky this thread?
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Post by AVA MANGO TWO » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:27 am

Hmmmmm thats weird, i did'nt but yup it had become un-stuck :? sorry about that its been re-stuck again.... :oops: zac
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Post by sounguru » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:00 pm

Week 5 now up...
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Post by sounguru » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:17 pm

Okay guys due to an ongoing battle with Gateway I'm gonna have to suspend this until such time that I have a computer that I know will not fail on me in the middle of the project.

Sorry for the delay but I have tried to put up the next installment 3 times only to have the computer lock up in the middle of the photo edit session.

Moral point is never buy a machine from Gateway......
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Post by Wolfguard6 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:48 pm

Ok did you read my mind sounguru? I was going to attampt a kitbash for a design I am working on now. But being I have never done that you made this thread in showing me how to get the right tools of the trade. So I don't need to ask.
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Post by sounguru » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:07 pm

Okay guys I am swamped IRL with an upcoming move and other things that are eating my time like a hungry prianha. So I'm going to make a change up here. Once the move is complete, hopefully this month, I will be making this Sounguru's Tip of the Month.... :lol:

Just wanted to give you guys an update that this wasn't forgotten.

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Post by thecircus » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:32 pm

Thanks for letting us know what is going on.


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